Being Aggressive About Meeting without Scaring Her Away

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If you’ve read my dating guide, you know I’m for meeting quickly when using online dating. However, there are times where the approach of trying to meet quickly may not go over well with who you are communicating with. Here’s one example from a reader:

I’ve been emailing a girl on Match.com for a couple of weeks now, and I’m struggling to work out where I stand, and how best to develop the email conversation into a real date. I know she’s busy in the real world, working and studying in the evenings, but she also says that she’s wary about online dating and hasn’t actually had a real date through the site yet. I want to ask her out, but I don’t want to scare her off by doing it too soon, before I’ve established trust.

In this case, my reader was a veteran of online dating but questioned the idea of jumping to a first date because of her hesitation about online dating and the fact that she had yet to make it to a first date.

Being Aggressive with Meeting

This issue shows that there are rarely “right” answers with online dating. Moving rapidly to meet might work great with some people, but in this case moving rapidly might ruin the chances of meeting. Because of this, I want to talk about a few approaches to this situation.

My Personal Approach
After I had been dating online for some time, I really didn’t have the patience for women who were both dating online but at the same time not really dating online. I know there are women who feel the same way: those who grow tired of communicating with men who would email them again and again and again but never ask them out.

Wasting Time

Because I was dating in such a way that gave me opportunities to meet a lot of women, I would generally ask a woman out, at the most, three times and after that I’d move on. I’d try to build some trust between the two of us and would space out my attempts at asking her out. However, if she was still giving me the run-around by the third time I asked, I would generally start communicating with someone new.

I feel this worked well for me and honestly I can’t ever remember having a woman from this type of situation contact me and say: Why’d you stop emailing me?! If she were really interested, my “disappearing” would have bothered her and yet it never did. So perhaps these women weren’t interested and my moving on just saved us both a hassle. However, I also think this is a sign that some people are online but they don’t really intend to meet anyone. I honestly feel that some people are sad to be single but feel relief when they see a dating opportunity pass them by. It might be fear or a busy schedule or whatever, but there are some people who like communicating online but just aren’t ready for more than that. That’s fine, I just don’t want to spend all my time chasing someone like that.

Situations that Deserve More Patience
So the above was my preferred approach. However, if you feel there is a strong connection that’s worth being patient for, I’d recommend concentrating on moving the conversation to the phone or Skype if you already haven’t. This seems like a nice “step” for someone who is nervous about dating online: it can show that you’re real and perhaps remove some of their hesitation.

That being said, I wouldn’t spend too much time chatting on the phone or you could end up in the same situation just with a different way of communicating! I’d suggest attempting to schedule a date after two or three “substantial” conversations (let’s call substantial 30+ minutes each).

Once you have the phone/Skype out of the way, I would recommend trying to get her to meet in the easiest and safest way you can think of. For example, you could recommend:

  • Meeting for a quick coffee somewhere very public. Limit the time you’d be together to 30 minutes or even 15 if it comes down to it.
  • Suggest meeting up at a local park for a walk and you’ll both bring one of your single friends as well.
  • Make the meeting seem less direct by making it a by-product of something else you’re doing. For example, you could send an email like:
    Hey I’m going to be in your area this Tuesday and was wondering if you wanted to grab a coffee. I’ll only have about 30 minutes before I have to catch my flight (or whatever it is you’re doing) but I wanted to have a chance to meet.
  • You could even suggest to having her friends meet you first…although I think that’s a bit much.

Honestly, as I write this list of ways to convince someone to meet, I’m reminded why I gave up on trying to convince women to meet at a certain point. It all sounds like a big pain to me now. However, if you’re feeling a really strong connection, hopefully trying to work around her fears could encourage her to meet.

If she’s not willing to talk on the phone or every idea you come up with to make her feel more comfortable isn’t good enough, it’s time to move on. Either she’s not really interested in you or she’s not really interested in meeting anyone.

One Final Warning About Fighting for the First Date
My experience was that the harder I had to work to get a woman to meet, the more likely I was to be stood up on our first date (or in some cases having her cancel at the last minute). I remember one woman in particular where I worked hard to get her to meet me…and I probably even broke my only-ask-three-times rule with her. She finally agreed to meet me but then stood me up. I think I had talked her into meeting when she really wasn’t comfortable with it yet and she basically chickened out at the last moment.

So, keep in mind the fact that being stood up does happen. When you’re planning that date, make it something that will make your life easier if it does happen. It’s a lot easier to be stood up at a park than it is at a restaurant where your waitress and you both know you’ve been stood up but neither of you want to say anything!

 

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About the Author:

Brad initially struggled with online dating but over time became quite successful using it. He met his wife using online dating and has been giving advice and helping people improve their results since 2007. He has written a Free Online Dating Guide to help others find success with online dating. You can learn more about his personal experience using online dating and running this website here.

Comments

  1. Dixie  July 24, 2012

    Thanks for this post – maybe one reason why the men I email with disappear is because they are not serious about meeting someone (after all, they do not ask to meet).

    I’d like your advice and hopefully, you’ll respond. I know a girl who says that after 3 emails if she does not get an ask out, she will reply to them (something to the effect of) that they don’t seem interested in meeting and while that’s cool, it’s not ok with her because she’s online dating to meet someone. Usually, she claims, the men will email back and ask her out.

    Ok. I tried that same approach and have not been successful. What do you think of that Brad? Do you think that’s an aggressive approach? Do you think I should just let things go organically and if I get no ask out, then I should stop responding to emails? Instead of me asking them out?

    By the way, I have absolutely nothing lined up in the online dating horizon. I keep initiating contact with guys on match but no response. While I am not getting messaged on the other free one I’m on, I also not initiating contacting either. But I am more ok with it. Almost accepting and resigning myself that this is the way it is.

    • Brad  July 28, 2012

      Hey Dixie – I imagine that approach could work but I think how it’s phrased could have a big impact. If it’s too aggressive, some guys will just assume they’ve missed their opportunity and move on…or some might just get mad and also disappear.

      My preference is to take an approach like: “Hey so-and-so, I’m going to be out your way tomorrow around 4PM running some errands. I have about 30 minutes free in the middle of that – would you like to grab a coffee?”

      I think that approach is less aggressive but should paint a clear picture to him that you’re ready to meet. Even if he’s not available at the time you suggest, hopefully he’ll take the lead at that point.

  2. myaka  July 27, 2012

    I don’t understand “busy people” who say they want a reltionship but have no time to date?why look for someone they yell them your too busy?
    I have been on all the sites and after 2 years gave up.the men I have tried to date don’t want to date so it’s a crazy merry go round.most are looking for a hookup and when they find out there’s not going to be one they disappear.internet dating is a waste of time and money.some guys have been on these sites for years and will never date.

  3. DA  July 29, 2012

    I found myself in a similar situation recently. “Met” a guy online who seemed really great, and we started e-mailing back and forth. And e-mailing. And e-mailing. I’ve been at the online thing for a long time, and if I’ve learned anything it’s that it is best to meet up after a few quick exchanges, because you’ll never discover whether or not that elusive “chemistry” is there until you meet in person. But this guy just wanted to keep writing, and I have no idea why. It went on for so long that a) we’d covered all of the standard first date topics, and b) I started to lose interest, even though I’d been excited about him early on. I tried dropping hints about a date. I tried writing short e-mails that purposely did not answer his questions. Nothing worked. Eventually I did something that I’ve never done before, which was to simply stop answering his messages–I felt terrible, but didn’t know how else to handle it. (Asking him out didn’t seem like the right move–if he’s not asking ME, he’s probably not all that interested, right?) I figured that after such a lengthy correspondence he’d probably write back to ask why I vanished, but I never heard from him again. I’m still baffled.

  4. Brad  July 30, 2012

    DA – generally if a woman disappears, guys will see that as her not being interested. It probably would have been better to do the suggesting yourself on meeting…it’s a long shot to hope he’ll respond in that particular way when you vanish. You could always reach back out to him though!

  5. L  September 27, 2012

    I am in the same situation as DA. Lot’s of emails, moved on to texting. Was in his area and suggested a meeting. He was out of town. You men baffle me. Why are men putting themselves out there on a dating site? They come across in their profiles as wanting to have someone to be with and then nothing. Or, they have a profile, wink or email you and then they are gone. Are those the ones just looking for a booty call or did they just not pay for a membership?

    I don’t know whether to be persistent or just forget it all together. What do you guys want?????