Re-Contacting Women and Online Dating Success

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Recently, a reader wrote to ask questions about re-contacting women at some point after the first email. He also talked a bit about my personal success compared to his and I wanted to address both of these areas in this article.

Re-contacting women and online dating success

Here’s part of his email to me:

I enjoyed reading your article Women I Contact Look at my Profile but Never Respond, since when I was actively dating (a few months ago), this was me. If you do the math — its a tough, tough world out there and I still can’t figure out how you were ever swimming in dates, as you said at one point in your guide.

Which leads to my question. What is your view on re-contacting someone? Say you contact someone and she views you and does nothing. Say a couple weeks go by and she is still active on the site. What do you think of sending another message? The theory is that the first time you contacted her, you had bad timing–maybe you came in second that day, but her first pick has since flamed out.

My Dating Success vs. Your Dating Success

First, I want to address my personal success with dating online that this reader brings up. More than a few guys have expressed to me that they feel recreating my success is not possible for them. I understand why people could feel this way so I want to point out some things I did to have success that I see many people reject as “just not for them”:

  1. I was using multiple dating services (eHarmony and Match when I met my wife).
  2. I was willing to meet just about anyone. Obviously if I found something extremely unlikable about them I wouldn’t pursue it but I was definitely much more open about first dates than most guys I know. A good example: my wife didn’t have a photo on her profile. I know plenty of guys who announce (almost proudly) that they would never contact a woman who doesn’t have a photo. That wasn’t me.
  3. I went on lots of second dates. Even if the first date wasn’t awesome or amazing. This improved my feelings of success and comfort with online dating…and it was also part of the reason my dating schedule was so busy.
  4. I contacted lots of women on Match and went through most of my eHarmony matches.

It’s not like I was doing AMAZING as much as I had really changed my approach to give myself the most opportunity. Was every woman I contacted was desperate to meet me? Far from it. Instead, it was more about being open and willing to date in general.

As I’ve said before, I my strategy was:

Date a lot of people and eventually find that perfect person.

instead of what most people want to do which is:

Eventually find the perfect person then date them.

I won’t rehash my opinions on this since I’ve covered it in my guide but the second approach puts a lot more pressure and annoyances on you than the first. It also limits a person’s ability to be swimming in dates by its very nature.

Even knowing that, many people are still unwilling to try the second approach. So if you’ve made the decision that the second approach is unacceptable, then you should also accept that not swimming in dates is going to likely be a part of that decision. That’s not necessarily a bad thing if you accept your approach as the best for your situation.

Should I Re-Contact a Woman After Some Time?

On re-contacting, I’m for it. On the one hand I feel like the odds of success are low but on the other hand there’s very little to lose. It doesn’t take long to write another email and you can even have fun with it.

The first time I wrote about this was in my article Should I Email Again if My First Email Gets Not Response? In this article, I talk about sending another email fairly quickly after the first contact.

Another Great Way of Looking at It
My previous article aside, I think this reader has a very good point I’d not previously considered: women are often contacted by many men. This process can continue as they date online and the odds of them remembering to go back to an old email is unlikely. They might have even liked your email/profile, just felt unable to pursue the conversation because of all the communication they were already engaged in.

I think this is a great point! If you wait a few weeks and contact the woman again, you may find a much better response. You’re the same guy, she just has more time to respond now. I’d never tried this when I was dating online so I can’t speak from personal experience. That being said, in theory this sounds like a logical approach that again has very low risk (you only lose the time it takes you to write another email).

Yet Another Way to Approach This Situation
Also, at the end my article on More First Email Examples, I talk about contacting the woman again but “disguising” yourself by placing a new primary photo in your profile to try to encourage her to give you another chance (even though she may not realize she’s giving you another chance!). You can see one woman in the comments of this article confirms that she’s not offended that a guy would do this.

Again, it may be a long shot to have success if your first email went unanswered…but there really is little to lose.

 

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About the Author:

Brad initially struggled with online dating but over time became quite successful using it. He met his wife using online dating and has been giving advice and helping people improve their results since 2007. He has written a Free Online Dating Guide to help others find success with online dating. You can learn more about his personal experience using online dating and running this website here.

Comments

  1. Heidi Munson  September 27, 2011

    Hi Brad.

    As a woman who ventured into the online dating arena, I think you are passing on some true pearls of wisdom. You never know what kind of connection you may make with the first and second date – I’ve made some very good friends through Match.com.

    I will tell you that when I didn’t respond – often it was because it was very hard to keep up with the winks and the emails. I don’t know about men, but many women I know simply start to feel like they are being spammed.

    So how, as a man, do you overcome this challenge? Make yourself stand out! Pay attention to what the lady says about herself, and show your interest by putting something cute – and relevant – in the subject line to capture her attention. A simple “Hello” doesn’t necessarily win face time.

    The picture is also a good idea – my favorite pic from a man was him standing in a Brewer’s Uniform in the Brewer’s locker room. He explained later he had been to Fantasy Camp – very cool – and very eye catching.

    Most important – be honest. If you truly want to meet this person – send an email. Don’t just wink. Take the time, and more often then not I’d bet you would at least get a response.

    Happy Dating!
    Heidi

  2. Brad  September 28, 2011

    Thanks for your thoughts Heidi! Very helpful.

  3. Melani  September 28, 2011

    I once had a guy started sending me derogatory emails when I ignored his previous emails. It continued for a while, I felt like he was trying to get my attention, first by emailing me, then soon sending nasty ones when I didnt reply.

    What a horrible way to get my attention. My advice: if she hasnt reply by the second email, dont bother guys. Look elsewhere, and dont think that being mean will make her notice. well, she will, but not in a good way. I do agree with Heidi also, make yourself standout and stay positive and draw from positive energy because just a slightly negative email can come off really bad. People can really tell by your writing that youre clingy, negative, have low-self esteem and whatnot.

    Emails should always be positive, show interest, but be nonchalant in a way as well. The emails I got that always grab my attention are the ones that lets me know instantly that he wants to grab coffee, but also have a life as well and wont wait long for me to say or yes.

    good luck.

  4. Steve  August 19, 2013

    I have found that the second email is actually quite successful if you have an angle. I came up with a very funny witty follow up copy and paste email that makes fun of them a little bit, and I get about 25% response on that second email. Sorry, I won’t share my secret message, but if you can find something unique and witty to say to make fun of the first rejection it actually works pretty good.

    I have noticed though that once you get to this point, the stakes are up, and it doesn’t last long if you can’t stay super interesting. It is good practice though, and practice makes perfect.

  5. Diane  July 18, 2016

    I suggest that a guy reread his initial email and ask himself if he really did a good job. Did he show that he really read the woman’s profile? Did he ask a follow up question about something from the profile? If the 1st email didn’t give the woman an easy way to respond or didn’t look personal, then definitely try again. I don’t even mind a second email the next day if I’m thinking “This guy needs to try a little harder.” If you don’t get a response on the second try, I don’t think a third try would help.